Interview with, Bailey Ordiway, Author


Welcome to my interview with, Bailey Ordiway, author of American Holdovers, Blackout, and Entertainment 100.

Hello, Bailey!

I’m glad you’re here! First some fun trivia.

Do you have a favorite book or film?

My all time favorite book is Looking For Alaska by John Green. My favorite film is Silver Linings Playbook, though it is a good book as well!

When you walk into a bookstore, where do you head to first?

First I look to see if I’m in the store at all. If I am, I sign a couple copies. Then, I go to the young adult section because I will always have a soft spot for that genre.

Do you have a job other than being an author? If so, what is it?

Yes! I actually own a small vape shop. I do most of my writing on the couch there while waiting for customers.

What do you listen to when you write?

I usually listen to a mix of classical and electronic. No words and relaxing in different ways.

What genre do you consider your book(s)?

I actually try to expand out into multiple genres so I don’t get stuck in a niche, but they all kind of remain around Young Adult.

What advice do you have for authors looking to find and connect with a wider base of fans?

Start a blog! I have my entertainment blog that has become just as important to me as my books. On top of that, it keeps you busy when you have writer’s block.

What has been your favorite part of being an author?

Probably getting to tell people I’m an author! It never gets old, really.

Are you a plotter, a planner, or do you prefer to dive right in?

I am a plotter for sure. I have a problem focusing and if I don’t write out a very thorough outline then I will ramble and get sidetracked.

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Thanks for stopping by, Bailey!  It was great to meet you.

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Wyvern’s Peak Publishing To Publish Acclaimed Author Lauren Lynne’s Young Adult Dystopian Novel – The Recalcitrant Project


Tulsa, OK [March 20, 2017]—D.C. McGannon, Co-Founder and Publisher for Wyvern’s Peak Publishing, announced today that acclaimed young adult author Lauren Lynne has joined the Wyvern’s Peak Publishing family. Her young adult dystopian novel, The Recalcitrant Project, will be published late Spring 2017.

“We are thrilled to have Lauren as part of our publishing family, and excited to further share her unique talents with young adult fiction fans everywhere,” said McGannon. “Lauren is an amazing human being, and a spectacular storyteller. We have supported each other over the past many years, and I believe she truly represents what we are trying to accomplish here at Wyvern’s Peak Publishing. Readers are going to love her new novel, and her fans, I think, are going to be pleasantly surprised as Lauren just keeps getting better with each new book she writes.”

The Recalcitrant Project, which will be available in both paperback and ebook formats, is Lauren’s first venture into the young adult dystopian genre. She has previously self-published The Secret Watchers series for young adults to great success.

About Lauren Lynne
Lauren Lynne is the author of the young adult fantasy, action-adventure series, The Secret Watchers. She graduated from both Oregon State and Portland State universities with degrees in education. Lauren focused her Secret Watchers series toward teen reluctant readers but has drawn in enthusiasts of all ages. She’s passionate about sharing her love of reading and writing with everyone.

The Pacific Northwest, with its vivid and varied panoramas, is where Lauren makes her home. When she’s not writing, she can be found spending time with her family, working with students, reading, gardening, or hiking around Mt. Hood, the Columbia River Gorge, or the Oregon Coast.

Her next book, The Recalcitrant Project, is her first dystopian young adult novel. To learn more about Lauren and her current and past work, visit

About Wyvern’s Peak Publishing
Wyvern’s Peak Publishing is a publisher of fine young adult and middle-grade fantasy, science fiction, and adventure books. Born in Orlando, Florida, Wyvern’s Peak Publishing is now based in Tulsa, Oklahoma and is actively involved with causes supporting libraries, bullying prevention programs, reading programs, and encouraging young authors to find their voice. For more information, please visit

Interview with Dave Hassler


Dave Hassler Interview

First some fun trivia – give me some juicy details…! What is your favorite place to eat?  Why?   Why?  The Original Taco House on 36th and Powell in Portland. Arguably, it’s in the bottom third for “quality cuisine,” but I love it – classic American-style Mexican food straight from the Sixties, with the décor to match.  I have a lot of fond memories of the place from childhood, and, family myth has it, my parents had a date there once.

What is your favorite junk food vice?  Gotta be nachos.

What does a typical day look like for you?  If I’m not at my part-time job, I get up late, around 8:30 or so, drink some tea, and putter.  Then, I tackle personal projects, scan the writing/editing boards, fool around with my ham radio gear, run errands, read, write, watch some TV.  If I’m at the job, the day looks like this: get up early, go in, process/shelve returns, help patrons, come home, eat, TV, sleep.  The weekends could be anything from taking a walk or easy hike (I’m no kid anymore), going out to the movies, hanging out with friends, going to see a sporting event.  Beer and wine are often involved.  I’m usually with my girlfriend, Sarah.

Favorite book or film?   Why?  For a book, it’s a toss-up between The Brothers K by David Duncan and Almost Famous by David Small.  They’re both “baseball books,” but really more about dreams and what can happen to people when the dreams get shattered, twisted, or derailed.  For a movie, I have to agree with that eminent arbiter of culture, Peter Griffin: “Roadhouse.”

Any movies that you really want to see?  Nope.

What’s on your reading list right now?  I’m a fairly random reader.  Usually, I’ll go to the library or a bookstore with a topic or person in mind and then browse until I find something that looks satisfactory.  Lately, it’s been 20th century political biography, physics and biology for the layman, and there’s always a little science fiction brain candy close at hand.

We all have our little things when it comes to reading that bug us.  What makes you cranky when you read a novel?  Dialogue that over-uses characters’ names.  No one speaks like that.  We know who we’re talking to (to whom we’re talking).  Also, dialogue in perfect, grammatically correct English.  Again, no one speaks like that.

Besides writing and reading, what is your most favorite thing to do?  I have several hobbies, but my main one is amateur radio.  I have a station set up here at home, and I can talk to people all over the world.  And yes, some of those radios have vacuum tubes.  I also have a rotary-dial phone, so there you go.

What do you look for in a book when you sit down to read for fun?  If it’s strictly for fun, I like a novel with a fast pace, a definite problem for the protagonist to solve or overcome, and (preferably) laser pistols and hyperdrive.

Who are your favorite authors?  Mike Reznick, Verner Vinge, Harry Harrison, Harry Turtledove and Poul Anderson for science fiction (John Scalzi is quickly becoming a favorite); Hemingway, Plath, Carver (poetry and stories), Kundera; Richard Dawkins.

What 7 words would you use to describe yourself?  Task-oriented, willing, curious, cynical, humorous, careful, thoughtful.

When you walk into a bookstore, where do you head to first? Why?  The bargain bin, because it may have a great book in it, and I’m cheap (just go ahead and make that the eighth word that describes me).

Did you get to quit your day job and become an author or do you still have a day job and writing is something you do for fun?  If you still have a day job, what is it?  I quit my job at an insurance company — talk about soul-killing! — to set up my editing business and between clients I get to write.

What has been the strangest thing that a reader has asked you?  “Are you trying to tell me that I should put one piece of pipe inside of another?”  For context, this came from a chapter on building a portable antenna mast.

What are your tips and tricks for other independent authors to get the word out about their books?  Just talk to people.  Be genuinely interested in what they’re doing and what they have to say.  There’s no magic bullet.

What are some of your favorite genres to read and to write?  To read, sci-fi; to write, poetry.

What has been the toughest criticism given to you as an author?  What was the biggest compliment?  Did those change how or what you did in your next novel?  I was once told that I was out of my mind to think that anyone would be interested in my story, and that I couldn’t tell it “right” anyway.  Another person told me that the exact same collection had touched her very deeply, that she was moved to tears.  This experience taught me that I should trust myself and write what I need to write.  Some people will get it, some people won’t.  You can’t please everyone, and it’s foolish to try.  But if you can reach someone, make that connection, you’ve done something good.

What has been your favorite part of being an author? What has been your least favorite?  I love creating and communicating my view of the world, of the human condition.  When I can do that with a well-crafted sentence and/or paragraph, so much the better.  What I don’t like is the pounding my fingers take.  After 15 years in journalism and not being a touch typist, I’m more than ready for voice recognition software.

What is the most frustrating thing you have had to deal with as a writer? Most exciting?  Not getting instant results is frustrating, another artifact of my journalism career.  I’m still used to writing a story in the afternoon and seeing it in print the next morning.  As for exciting, I’ve won peer-judged awards for political commentary and sports columns.

When you sit down to write, do you do it the old-fashioned way with pen and paper or do you use a computer? Do you prefer one way or the other?  The short answer is, “The computer, mostly.”  For almost every kind of writing I want to use the computer — it’s efficient, and I have a wealth of tools at my immediate disposal, both in apps and online.  But when writing a poem, I always want pen and paper.  It makes me feel closer to the work.  I usually do my first rewrite of a poem on the original, scratching out, adding in, drawing arrows and brackets all over the place.

What do you do when you are not writing?  I enjoy getting out and walking around, reading, camping, travel, my ham radios, and watching sports.

Compared to when you first started writing, have you noticed any big changes in your writing style or how you write compared from then to now?  Not really.  At heart, I’m still a pen-n-paper guy.

What draws you to your genre(s)?  I’ve written in a number of genres, but in non-fiction, what I really like is the opportunity to discover truth — to write about a subject in a factual way.  Come to think of it, I feel exactly the same way about poetry.

For our writer friends:  What advice do you have for authors looking to find and connect with a wider base of fans?  I don’t feel I can speak on this with any authority.  I write because that’s the impulse I feel.  I certainly don’t try to gauge the public’s interest and write to its tastes.  I understand that social media is the currently accepted way to expand one’s base, but I’m not a blogger or heavy self-promoter.

Along the same lines, what advice do you have for writers about the writing process and their development as writers? It’s the old “write what you know.”  Yada yada yada.  Yeah, it’s totally cliché, but I don’t know of any other avenue that produces authentic results.  I would say to a beginning author to bash out a first-draft manuscript, non-stop, then look it over, maybe after three or four weeks.  Fool around with it, play with it, and make the voices of your characters sound like people you know.

What advice would you give to a younger you? How has reading influenced you?  I would tell my 25-year-old self to keep reading, and to be a little more brave when it came to sharing his work — with the public, with agents, with publishers, with magazines, with fellow writers … everyone.  I feel I’ve really missed an opportunity to have my writing read by more people than has been the case.

Are you a plotter/planner or do you prefer to dive right in? I plan.  An outline is essential for longer work.  Even with a poem, I like to think about the topic for a while before diving in.

How do you think you’ve evolved creatively?  I’m more willing now to take on different kinds of writing, more open to new (to me) ways and forms of expression.

What do you listen to when you write? Do you find one type of music over another that inspires you to write? Why? I will often put on the local classical station, because I like some background noise and it’s the least distracting.  But if I’m writing poetry, I like it quiet.

Did you have any teacher in school that encouraged you to write? Did you take their advice? My freshman English teacher encouraged me. His only advice was to keep writing, so I did.

Please tell me about your novel. The novel is set in 2053 Tacoma, Washington, and concerns a young man who becomes disillusioned with the U.S.’s authoritarian government. Through a series of misfortunes, he ends up in a prison camp and later has to rebuild his life.

Which is your favorite character in your book and why? My favorite character is Beck, the domestic security officer who hounds the protagonist.  She’s got a whole trainload of baggage, and it makes her a very interesting character to explore.  If there’s another novel in that universe, it’ll be with her as the protagonist.

What authors inspired you to write this particular novel? No particular author inspired me, but I’ve been reading sci-fi since I was 7 years old, so I’m sure there’s plenty of influence.  If I had to peg one of those authors of my youth, I’d say Ben Bova.

Dream big… Your book has been purchased to be turned into a movie script and you have been asked to list the people you would most like to play each role.  Who do you choose? Fun question!  Mike (my protagonist) would be played by Zach Quinto or Kunal Nyaar, Beck would be played by Sarah Shahi (but she’s have to go blonde), Syd would go to Kirsten Dunst, and Ansel would be either Steve Martin or Bill Murray.

What else do you have in the pipeline?  A non-fiction book about a prominent athletic contest that, I think, was the last of its kind.

Links – Where can people learn more about you and your work? — there and, of course! and

Inspiring teachers to inspire their students at ORA


Inspiring teachers to inspire their students at the Oregon Reading Association’s (ORA) Winter Institute!12687987_1059233604138705_2485724614047673039_n

The Winter Institute included workshops and author talks.


CbCUOKDXEAEoWzpWhat an honor to connect with teachers from all over the state!


Winter Institute: Ziemke, Probst, Beers at Embassy Suites PDX

Coming Soon – The Recalcitrant Project


Coming Soon! The Recalcitrant Project

NEWS!  Between now and April 1, 2016 The Recalcitrant Project is available for beta readers.  If you are interested, let me know.  Happy reading!!!

I am thrilled to announce that in the spring of 2016 you can expect a new novel. I am venturing into the world of dystopia!  Please join me on my latest adventure. If you like The Hunger Games… give this a try!

Re·cal·ci·trant, adjective: having an obstinately uncooperative attitude toward authority or discipline. Recalcitrant, noun: a person with an obstinately uncooperative attitude.


They’re not sure who I am. They think I’m an outlier – someone who lies outside the norm. So why haven’t they killed me yet? Perhaps they hope to reprogram me because they need me to put the finishing touches on their deadly game. They are desperate to know what is in my head and how I can outsmart computers but I will never tell.

My name is Elise Andrak and I live in the new North. I come from a sparkling city that everyone believes is perfect, but I know otherwise. I know things I should not know. I’ve seen things I was never meant to see or understand. I’m seventeen years old and I’m wanted… dead or alive by my own government. This is my story – believe it and be assured that it’s true. Don’t allow yourself to be blinded by their lies anymore. Save yourself before it’s too late. Only you can free yourself from this, but you have to have the courage to try. I hope I have the courage to escape The Recalcitrant Project.

Elise and her classmates are up for their final trial before graduation except that something goes horribly wrong. As they enter their trial, Elise comes to realize she’s seen it all before, but how? In a dream? In a message? In a computer game? Yes, the computer game she’d been beta testing. The question remains… why her? And what does it all mean?

Our history books tell us that after the third world war everything changed. Our government, in an effort to protect those of us who remained, took away nearly all of our personal rights and freedoms. A universal way of living was established for the populace, supposedly for our safety. At the time the citizens agreed it was for the best, but as always, there were a few who were unafraid to speak out. Dissenters were made an example of and many simply disappeared. During that time a legend was born and even though the government tried to kill the idea, it lives on: It says that one will come who will break the system and save us from our crushing government. Personally, I don’t care about all that. My life is normal, but then I’ve never known any different. I know it is best to just go on, do your job and not cause any trouble. The latest news confirms this.
“As a result of the civil unrest that has broken out among our citizenry, new laws are being enforced. Those who do not conform to the lot they are given and choose to defy our great nation shall be reconditioned, so on this day, February 26, 2066, we the government, will begin a new system of eradication of those citizens we find to be obstinately uncooperative in their attitude toward authority and discipline.”
…And so begins the Recalcitrant Project.10904257_10204410664321597_1706411817_n

Destiny – Owen’s Final Adventure.


Destiny – Owen’s Final Adventure.

We come to the end of a series and… as readers and writers, many of us are filled with joy and sadness.  We have fallen in love with these characters and it is difficult to let them go.  We want to know what happens next.  These characters have become our friends.  We have to know if they are happy and well.  We miss the way they have made us laugh and cry – the way they have touched our hearts.  Perhaps more than anyone I will miss Owen, Lucie, Marlo, and the others.  Owen was my first protagonist and like a first boyfriend he will always have a special place in my heart.


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Congratulations to Author L.R.W. Lee of the Andy Smithson Series! Book 5 Release.

51ZaOpiysjL._UY250_Vision of the Griffin’s Heart, Andy Smithson, Book 5
Four years ago, Andy Smithson discovered he is the Chosen one to break a 500-yr-old curse plaguing the land of Oomaldee when he unexpectedly and mysteriously found himself there. To do so, he must collect ingredients for a magical potion. Thus far he has gathered the scale of a red dragon, venom from a giant serpent, a unicorn’s horn, and the tail feather of a phoenix. Now he must ask a griffin for one of its talons. There’s just one problem…humans have poached griffin treasure, causing these mythical creatures to attack on sight.Complicating matters, the evil Abaddon, sovereign of Oomaldee’s northern neighbor, is turning more and more citizens into zolt in his ongoing campaign of terror as he sets in motion the final steps of his plan to conquer the land. Things really start to heat up in book five!If you loved Harry Potter, you’ll love the Andy Smithson series chalk full of mythical creatures, newly invented animals like zolt, herewolves, and therewolves, a complex plot with evolving characters, and positive themes including responsibility, diligence, dignity, friendship and more.Purchase Kindle and PaperbackTHE BUZZ
5 Stars! – “A marvelous book in a great series!” – Erik Weibel (Age 14) This Kid Reviews Books Blog
“Readers of this series have come to anticipate a host of challenges, intense battles, and on an epic scale. In Vision of the Griffin’s Heart, you won’t be disappointed. For lovers of fantasy, I consider it a must read.” – Richard Weatherly, Author
“One of the admirable qualities I like about the entire series is seeing Andy’s growth from a self-absorbed kid to a more thoughtful teen as he learns how to deal with the various crises which face him, all the while knowing that the future may hold unpleasant consequences. The watchword for Vision of the Griffin’s Heart is “courage.” – Wayne Walker, Home School Book Review


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L. R. W. Lee credits her love of fantasy with her introduction to C. S. Lewis’ Chronicles of 7bcfc1_8a24bc7f0b474b758ec4a0ea0e375d1a.jpgNarnia. Later on, she enjoyed the complex world of Middle Earth brought to life by J. R. R. Tolkien in Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit. The multiple dimensions of the worlds mixed with a layer of meaning, captivated her and made her desire to invent Young Adult Fantasy and Epic Fantasy worlds others could get lost in, but also take meaning away from. More recently, L. R. W. Lee has found inspiration from J. K. Rowling and her Harry Potter series as well as Brandon Mull and his best selling Fablehaven, Beyonders and Five Kingdoms series.

L. R. W. Lee writes to teach her readers principles that can transform their lives – overcoming frustration, impatience, fear and more. She also shows why responsibility, diligence and dignity are the keys to true success in life. She lives in scenic Austin, TX with her husband. Their daughter is a Computer Engineer for Microsoft and their son serves in the Air Force.
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1. How did you come up with your main character, Andy Smithson? Did he just pop into your imagination or did you specifically develop him?
Andy is patterned after my son. After our first child who was what I would call compliant and seemed to need little to no correction, our son arrived on the scene. As with most 2nd children, he was polar opposite and provided much fodder for an engaging main character.
2. How did your experience with building a business help with your writing?
It has been invaluable for I understand that writing is only 50% of the writer’s success equation. Unlike Field of Dreams, with so many good books available today, just launching it, even on a well trafficked platform like Amazon, does not get recognition. Because of my corporate background, from day one I began working to build a platform – Twitter and Facebook primarily and now also Book Nerd Paradise. As well, I understand the importance of the author community, for no author can succeed these days without the support of fellow authors. My background has also helped in understanding the need to optimize my books to rank well on the variety of sites they are listed on. There’s much more, but those are the biggest helps I would say.
3. Was there any particular book or author whom you feel had the most influence on your work?
I have to say JK Rowling. The imagination she revealed, the strength of her characters, the world building, the depth of plot over multiple books…she definitely shaped how I think about writing.
4. What do you love the most about writing for young people?
Young people are moldable. My passion for writing is to share with readers principles that from my experience can help them live more peaceful lives. A few of these principles include overcoming fear, frustration and impatience as well as understanding that true success in life is not from riches, fame or power, but rather responsibility, diligence and dignity. If they can finish any of my books closer to understanding these principles, I feel very fulfilled.
5. Which part of the creative process is your favorite? Least favorite?
Designing the story arc is my favorite part of the creative process for you can take a story anywhere your imagination can go. My least favorite part is editing/revising. Even though I know the narrative gets much stronger as a result, it’s still my least favorite part.
6. How long does it usually take you to write one of your stories from when you get the idea to when it’s finished?
Usually about 6 months.
7. I know that most authors love all their characters but which of your many “children” is your favorite (besides Andy) and why?
I have to say Mermin, the kindly old wizard who speaks with a lisp. I love him most after Andy because he’s so warm, humble and approachable. He’s fallible and he knows it, which is why he doesn’t apologize for his mistakes, rather he is comfortable in his own skin.
8. Do you ever plan to branch out into other genres besides middle grade/young adult fantasy?
Funny you should ask. Yes, I’m actually noodling with a story arc of a YA Sci Fi story.
9. How do you feel your writing has evolved since your first novel?
I can see how much I’ve changed and improved in showing rather than telling my readers what’s happening. I want them to engage and to show – providing sight, sounds, touch, smell, and taste cues is a big part of that. I was particularly thrilled when my editor came back a full week sooner than expected with this current book because I had improved so much between book three and four. My pocketbook also appreciated that J

7bcfc1_9b703397b828493f95af0b1e9326dfdfTHE DEPTH OF THE ANDY SMITHSON SERIES
If you’re an adult looking for a clean series you can sink your teeth into, Andy Smithson is definitely it! In it I develop four layers simultaneously: 1) Andy Smithson in Lakehills, TX 2) Andy in Oomaldee 3) the Afterlife 4) a meaning layer. A few examples to demonstrate the depth…
Symbolism is used extensively (a couple examples):
• The fog of the curse symbolizes blindness and oppression.
• The magic key unlocks doors, brings stone statues to life, as well as revives. Put another way, it symbolizes bringing forth, opening up, and revealing (aka taking responsibility).
• Methuselah is not only a weapon and helper, but also represents justice as it divides good and evil. Consistent with life, justice requires diligence to uphold.

Names are also important in this series (a few examples):
• Andy means brave or courageous.
• Alden means helper.
• Hannah means favor or grace.
• Imogenia means blameless.

Alchemy used throughout the series (a few examples):
• Alchemy played a significant role in the development of modern science. Alchemists sought to transform base metals into the gold or silver and/or develop an elixir of life which would confer youth and longevity and even immortality.
• In the series, the first instance of alchemy begins with the gold weavers, Max, Oscar, and Henry, spinning straw into gold to manufacture the wealth of the kingdom.
• The four elementals: air, earth, fire, and water are then seen on Methuselah’s hilt.

The titles of the books manifest yet another layer of meaning and reveal Imogenia’s evolution.
• Beginning with Blast of the Dragon’s Fury, Imogenia is furious at what has happened to her and she fuels her emotional hurt.
• In Venom of the Serpent’s Cunning, Imogenia turns venomous (or spiteful) and cunning in seeking ways to continually punish her brother.
• Disgrace of the Unicorn’s Honor has Imogenia act in a manner disgraceful to the honor of royalty.
• In Resurrection of the Phoenix’s Grace we see Imogenia’s grace reborn as she begins to reflect.
• In Vision of the Griffin’s Heart, Imogenia realizes she is gripped by hatred and distrust she has harbored for so long. Unlike griffins who choose to trust others, Imogenia cannot yet make that leap when it comes to her brother.